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  i have a question

  by brandon_the many in

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  would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .

  please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .

  new world translation of the holy scriptures new world translation of the holy scriptures .

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  moggy lover

  In my opinion a good illustration would go something like this:

  "Linda was with John Smith and Linda was a Smith"

  As can be seen, the final clause, while identifying "Linda" as someone who shares a commonality with "John Smith" ie the concept of being "Smith", nevertheless, she is also clearly not being identified as the same PERSON as ''John Smith"

  Whatever the meaning of the word "Smith" [and it clearly means a surname] in that sentence, the imposition of an indefinite article does not create a shift in MEANING regarding the word Smith,[Linda is a Smith in the same meaning as John Smith] the shift is in a nuance of expression.

  I believe John, at Jo 1:1 is agruing against such teachings as Sabellianism, or Modalism, which saw the Word and the Father as the one and the same Person, he is not arguing against any concept that would be construed as bestowing Deity on the Word

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  A "spirit-directed" post - what's your favorite....

  by serendipity in

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  2. friends

  i'm posting under the influence of distilled spirits and was wondering:.

  what's your favorite kind of booze?

  i like frou frou mixed drinks like frozen margaritas and pina coladas.

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  moggy lover

  My Gawd!! You are a bit of a wino are'nt cha?

  <<Sigh>> And I used to fantasize about you.........

  Anyway... nothing comes between an Aussie and his beer.

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  i have a question

  by brandon_the many in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  would the passage from new world translation be a miss print....because in the holy bible the word is god......so if god is not capitalized..then what god is the book referring to...because there is only one father and one living god witch is jesus...... .

  please help me , because this has been puzzling me...... .

  new world translation of the holy scriptures new world translation of the holy scriptures .

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  moggy lover

  According to Watchtower theology, the word "God" in Jo1:1 does not necessarily refer to the One we recognize as the Supreme Being

  In clause 2, the word refers to the person we recognize as "deity" - "God"

  In clause 3, however, evidently because of the absence of the definite article, [THE] they argue that the word "God" undergoes a shift in meaning, making it mean "A mighty one"

  So, in effect, the WTS says that Jo is saying: "The Word was with God, and the Word was a mighty one"

  Most scholars who have commented on this verse do not recognize this distinction, and have shown, with some justfication, that the WTS is inconsistent in the applyng of this explanation.

  For a review of the JW position you might log onto the official WT web site, where you will be able to read a brochure on the Trinity online.

  For an alternative point of view you could log onto Forananswer.com, or www.bible.ca/trinity.com

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  Why Publishers.

  by vomit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why are baptized and unbaptized refered to as being publishers?

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  since they neither publish,print or edit the magazines.

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  moggy lover

  Dunno.

  Maybe Freddy Franz wanted something that rhymed with "Rubbisher"

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  Unclebruce..can we start over?

  by mentalist in

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  2. friends

  just give me an unreserved apology and im sure we can be friends.

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  moggy lover

  My neighbour has a very beautiful ass, if you must know.

  Her arse is'nt bad either.

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  Attitudes of JCs

  by rhian in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just finished reading crisis of conscience.

  i had read half of it but never finished; something i read on this forum prompted me to pick it up & finish it.. my question is this: i'm curious, for those who have had experience with judicial committees, what has been the prevailing attitude?

  franz wrote about the lack of brotherly love in both the committees at hq in ny and in the cong in alabama.. i've had two experiences; won't go into the details for the sake of brevity.

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  moggy lover

  I suppose most elders are shortsighted, well-meaning men, who, being theologically inert, still presume to stand for what they have predetirmined are "righteous principles" During the time that I served as an elder [75-84] I had the misfortune to serve on at least five JCs and none were exactly uplifting experiences

  Before we would meet with the "subject" we would get together first. We would "pray" then cast around the Bible trying to find some "principle" that would fit the situation. Usually we found none, and thus had to rely on some relevant WT presentation. The supposed goal of the entire excercise was bring the person to ''repentance'' but it is only in retrospect that I can see that in reality it was to intimidate and force a rigid compliance to an established fiat.

  I would like to believe that at least while I served on these committees, that we gave a fair hearing to the accused. However, there were occassions where a somewhat forceful elder would turn the procedure into a starchamber event. To my shame, I would have to admit, that rather than show any dissent I would comply with the majority decision even if I felt it wrong.

  I have often wished that I could apologize to these half-forgotten memories, because they were real people, in real life emotional situations, and who were seeking solace, but instead were subjected to brutal, unbridaled exercises of pwer

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  Unclebruce..can we start over?

  by mentalist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just give me an unreserved apology and im sure we can be friends.

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  moggy lover

  Hey! I just thought of sumthin' Mebbe just mebbe we should'nt win too many more gold medals at the Comm games and show up the Poms.

  Tony Blair may just invade us instead of Wherever

  Suppose we could tell 'im we already speak the lingo Thank u very much.

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  "Jehovah" DoesNot Prevent "Demon Possession"

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the enduring myths of being one of jehovah's witnesses is that it somehow prevents attacks by the demons.

  in reality,.

  nothing could be further from the truth.

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  moggy lover

  This reminds me of a visiting speaker who came to our cong one day sometime back in the mid 70s when I was in the WTS. This was the time when several movies were coming out, depicting demonic activity, and as a result there was a hightened sensitivity to the subject on the part of the JWs.

  Evidently presuming himself to be a "demon expert" he went to great lengths to demonstrate how we could protect ourselves from demon visitation. He dramatically whipped out a WT magazine and held it before his face. Rather than see you, it was essential to make the ''demon'' see the WT, especially the magic word ''jehovah'' which is displayed on every WT cover.

  It was the hysterically funny theatricality of it all that made the talk memorable, rather than the information presented. I daresay we all felt well armed when we went out on the field service!

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  Many thanks to Simon!

  by Elsewhere in

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  if it were not for all of the very hard work that simon does behind the scenes to keep this forum up, much of the other work others are doing could never have happened.. this site serves as an excellent central location for us all to communicate and exchange thoughts and ideas about how to expose the evil ways of the wts.. simon, thank you very much!

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  moggy lover

  Hats off and three cheers for Simon and all of you blokes behind the scenes !!!

  Cheers

  Moggyand me
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  New Series: Watchtowers that never made it to print....be a GB board member

  by Trojan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  who has seen the video "the organization behind the name?

  "....remember the scene where the gb members are deciding what to put on the front cover of some wt issue?

  ever dreamt to be a member of the board for one day?

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  moggy lover

  BE BALANCED IN ALL THINGS

  Keep your Bibles, send us your cash - preferably lots of it

  Cheers